OK, this one does the rounds quite regularly, but it is worth bringing up again because it is a Fraud Alert on carsales.Just 2 days ago I put my trusty old ute onto carsales and gumtree.But within 24 hours I had a very promising lead from someone who was willing to pay my full asking price... no questions!Well!! I had a few questions - LOL...Here is the text of the email that I received... so that you can recognise it if you get something similar.It is quite hard to read... but that's how it came!Thanks for mailing back,am OK with the price and the condition,i work with New Zealand Oil and Gas (NZOG) and we are presently offshore in New Zealand Taranaki Basin on kupe project.We do not have access to phone at the moment that's why I contacted you with internet messaging facility.Regarding the payment,i will be paying you through PayPal because i don't have access to my bank account online as am not with my credit card details here but i have my ANZ bank account link up with my PayPal account so I will be paying you through PayPal to your nominated bank account or better still is if you have a PayPal account,please get back to me with your BSB and account details or PayPal account so i can proceed with the payment.I have also contacted my courier who will come for pick up and deliver it to my place in Darwin after the whole fund has been cleared into your acct. Await your replyNote the following about this email:
No formatting - designed to be confusing and hard to read
Poor English and very bad grammar, (not that this alone means it is spam or a fraud)
No name given
None of that alone is conclusive, except that I have seen this fraud before.Here is how it would read with some paragraphs added...Thanks for mailing back,am OK with the price and the condition, I work with New Zealand Oil and Gas (NZOG) and we are presently offshore in New Zealand Taranaki Basin on kupe project.We do not have access to phone at the moment that's why I contacted you with internet messaging facility.
Regarding the payment,i will be paying you through PayPal because i don't have access to my bank account online as am not with my credit card details here but i have my ANZ bank account link up with my PayPal account so I will be paying you through PayPal to your nominated bank account or better still is if you have a PayPal account,please get back to me with your BSB and account details or PayPal account so i can proceed with the payment.I have also contacted my courier who will come for pick up and deliver it to my place in Darwin after the whole fund has been cleared into your acct.Await your replyThis is the part to look out forso I will be paying you through PayPal to your nominated bank accountHow this scam worksYou get paid into your bank account via the buyers PayPal account.The buyer then sends his 'courier' mate around to pick up the car and the papers.Once you hand over the vehicle, you literally are STUFFED.Next thing you know, the buyer lodges a claim with PayPal to say they never received the goods.PayPal refunds the money to them, and then extracts it back out of your bank account.(Yes, apparently they can do that!!)You are left with the onus of proving that you have in fact handed over the vehicle which is almost impossible to do.Why?A 'courier' picked up the vehicle so you do not have a signed transfer paper, nor have you sighted the buyers drivers license.You have no id for the buyer to report to the Police.Worst of all... you have no car and you have no money!You don't have the money, and try getting your car back!Just You Tube search on "carsales fraud using PayPal" and you get any number of listings...What should you do now?
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